We can restrain ourselves no longer.
We used to read Andrew Sullivan on a regular basis, long before the Posse Incitatus was formed. He wigged out at times, but usually made sense.
Not any more.
Andrew's attacks on George W. Bush are so pathetic, we are compelled to take it apart:
ONE ISSUE ANDREW: Since I'm getting swamped by emails lambasting me for leaning toward giving Kerry a shot, it may be worth defending myself from the assertion encapsulated by the following email:
Why don't you just admit it Andrew? Whom ever supports Gay marriage can count on your support.
Of course, John Kerry doesn't support marriage rights for gay people. And in 2000, George W. Bush, whom I endorsed, didn't support equal marriage rights. I haven't noticed my supporting Al Sharpton or Dennic Kucinich on those lines either. The notion that someone who has views about a whole host of topics and who has backed both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush for the presidency is some kind of one-issue voter strikes me as deeply unfair. But telling.
Also telling is your constant abuse of Republicans for being anti-exclusionary when they – by your own admission – embrace the same damn position. The difference is that at least the GOP is open about it.
So let’s review: Karl Rove = evil, Democrats = tolerant.
What makes this so insulting is that the leftists you now play footsie with are the exact same people you used to castigate for enforcing a monolithic view of homosexuality.
Remember those days? Probably not.
I should say up-front that, of course, the president's support for the most extreme measure imaginable on the issue of marriage - a constitutional amendment - has obviously affected my view of him. The fact that he did so without even attempting to explain himself to the gay community or even his gay supporters merely compounded it.
Funny, Alphecca disagrees. He thinks Bush is spending too much time on this. Is he lying?
Many of you think it's no big deal, and you're entitled to believe that. For someone who has spent much of his adult life arguing for gay equality and for gay inclusion in the Republican party, it obviously is a big deal. How could it not be? If Bush favored an amendement restrcting the rights of, say, Catholics, would anyone be surprised if a Catholic decided not to support him on that basis? Would the blame be assigned to the voter or the president? The very notion that a gay person should simply acquiesce in the FMA is itself an expression of prejudice against gay people and the legitimacy of their aspirations and beliefs.
Yes, we think there are larger issues at stake, LIKE THE WAR.
Maybe you’ve heard of it.
MANY ISSUES ANDREW: But, of course, my concerns about Bush are emphatically not merely related to the marriage issue. The blog speaks for itself on this - over the last few years. From the minute Baghdad fell, I expressed concern about hubris and chaos.
Yes, you always had a defeatist strain. The minute anything went wrong, you were wringing your hands, as if all military operations were supposed to cause no casualties and no damage.
You were always a chicken-hawk in the sense that you favored war, but only a bloodless one.
At the first sign of fiscal disaster, I called Bush to account for his spending policies.
Yes, everything is Bush’s fault. For a political junkie, you are woefully ignorant of how government works. The president proposes, but Congress disposes.
If you want cuts in spending, you will have to get a more conservative Congress. Bush could veto every budget out there, and the spending would simply get put back in. Why was the budget balanced under Clinton?
It wasn’t his great fiscal restraint, it was the more conservative Congress that did it. We went from 55 GOP Senators to 51. When you trade in Spence Abraham for Debbie Stabenow, spending will go up.
You should be smart enough to figure this out.
As a cultural liberal, I'm obviously alienated by Bush's embrace of everything and anything James Dobson says.
And what about Michael Moore? Does he alienate you?
We will have to parse the next bit piece by piece:
As a believer in free trade, I was offended by steel tariffs;
Good thing Bush repealed them.
as a federalist, I was appalled by his incursion on states' rights, from marriage to marijuana;
You keep saying you’re a federalist, but it’s a pretty thin veneer. We’d wager if the Supremes found a Constitutional right to same-sex marriage, you’d do back flips – federalism be damned.
as a balanced-budget conservative, I was horrified by the president's insouciance toward deficits and expansion of entitlements;
And you think Kerry will show restraint? The man more liberal than Kennedy?! This is beyond wishful thinking.
as a strong believer in the moral superiority of American values, Abu Ghraib was an indelible lapse, however effectively it is white-washed by the Defense Department.
Again with the defeatism. Because our soldiers are not angels, we will lose.
Abu Ghraib was a failure of discipline and nothing was “white-washed.” They were perverts, Andrew, who did all sorts of stupid things and then got caught and punished. Wartime is like that.
Does all this represent a capitulation to the "left"? On all these matters, I'd argue that my core principles remain unchanged.
Yes, you remain a defeatist looking for excuses to embrace the Democrats. You assume that our soldiers will win bloodless victories while avoiding any vice; you assume that Democrats will suddenly disavow their love of high taxation and high spending.
You are projecting your personal desires onto a party that will have nothing to do with them. It’s beyond wishful thinking and borders on intellectual dishonesty – not with your readers, but with yourself.
Should the war trump every other issue? In some ways, yes. But, as I have argued, I'm not sure that the choice is as stark as some want to make it out to be. I have yet to discern a distinction between Bush's and Kerry's Iran policy, for example.
Funny, the Iranian mullahs have. That’s why they want Kerry to win.
If our major unfinished task is "nation-building," I'm not convinced Kerry would be much worse than Bush.
Kerry, assuming he could take a consistent stand, would bail out at the first opportunity. He has already said that democracy isn’t important and that a dictatorship will work fine so long as our troops can come home. Furthermore, his advisors will be the same crew that ignored the threat of terrorism during the 1990s.
Why do you think they will be perfect this time around?
And Bush's errors - the WMD debacle, for example - have definitely made him less effective on the world stage.
Oh, so those were Bush’s errors? British intelligence didn’t make any? Get a fucking grip.
No British prime minister will go out on a limb for an American president in the foreseeable future. Pre-emption has been largely discredited - by Bush himself.
Blair was the one who wanted to go through the UN. Blair was the one who drove the WMD direction. Americans respond to the moral component, but Blair demanded the UN be involved.
What should Bush have done, disbelieve British and American intelligence estimates? Just shrug them off?
This is public record, Andrew. You’re re-writing history using DNC talking points as your Gospel.
When I listen to the president on the war, I am heartened by his support for democracy. I take back not a word of praise for his conduct after 9/11 and during the buildup to the Iraq war.
A position you share with a lot of anti-war activists. “Why I was for the war, but now…”
It’s a straddle. You vote for the war but not the money to pay for it. You support the “buildup” but not combat operations.
It’s intellectual cowardice.
But I think he has shown himself to be at worst incompetent and at best feckless in many aspects of the conduct of the war at a time when such lapses are unforgivable.
Funny that you find the Dem's lapses forgivable. Why they're ready for another chance! They turned down Bin Laden four times, but hey, everyone makes mistakes!
What a load of crap.
But let's assume you're actually being honest here (stupid, but honest).
Okay, you have fallen completely for the notion that the liberation of Iraq and its rehabilitation could somehow have been planned out for years in advance in some back room of the Pentagon.
You know who else thought like that? Robert McNamara.
War is chaos, Andrew, and if it scares you, don’t advocate it. If you are going to ascribe every defeat and setback to incompetence you have no understanding of it and aren’t fit to comment on it.
The enemy wants us to lose. They will change their tactics and the key isn’t how well you plan, but how fast you adapt. This administration is amazing at making that adaptation.
It is well known that you supported keeping the old Saddamite Iraqi army around for police duties, a typically stupid and ignorant position given the facts on the ground.
The old army had already deserted en masse. The ones that remained were shot through with Saddam loyalists would could easily have infiltrated our operations and fed information to the Fedayeen. If you think the Shi’ites would have responded to such officers, you’re clearly insane.
Did the scope of the insurgency take us by surprise? Yes. But so did the speed of the collapse. Again, war is chaos and cannot be predicted. What this administration did was retool in record time and slowly squeeze the life out of the enemy.
And yet you demand more. You demand perfection. If you don't get it, it's time to throw the GOP overboard and go with the proven idiots, the Dems.
All this leads me to look at the alternative. Heaven knows I have been critical of Kerry.
But I want to give him a chance. So sue me. I know in this polarized climate, such indecision is rare and punished. But it's my best take on what's going on. And the joy of a blog is that I can simply write that - and let the chips fall where they may.
It isn’t indecision, its intellectual dishonestly. You are deluding yourself and your readers by projecting traits onto Kerry that he simply doesn’t possess.
You are holding Bush up to one (unattainable) standard and then damning him for falling short. Then you suggest that Kerry somehow could achieve otherwise, utterly ignoring the people who would be entrusted by him with national security. Sandy Berger? Madeline Albright? This the Dem first team. The same people who blew it in 1998 are the ones you think will run a flawless war on terror.
It’s bullshit and we have to call you on it.
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